Game 101: Toronto at Seattle pregame

While standing outside the visitors’ clubhouse at Safeco Field this afternoon, Blue Jays third baseman Scott Rolen walked out of the room, stopped by us writers, suddenly looked stunner and pointed back toward the locker room.

“Did you guys know they’re thinking of trading Doc?” Rolen deadpanned.

“Where’d ya hear that?” one scribe jokingly replied.

“From Doc!” Rolen said. “He just told me. I can’t believe it.”

Meanwhile, Halladay was at his locker, putting on his Jays uniform. The good doctor is still here and he’s still scheduled to start tomorrow for Toronto. Today was the self-imposed “deadline” that general manager J.P. Ricciardi set for potentially trading Halladay, but it looks as if these talks will keep going.

Ricciardi did not return several messages. Not a big surprise there, since J.P. has been offering up no comments for the most part since Halladay’s last start. What we know? Jays and Phillies are still talking, but Philadelphia may be turning its attention to Jarrod Washburn and Cliff Lee given the Jays’ asking price for Doc.

One of the Phillies’ top officials is here in Seattle to keep an eye on Washburn’s outing tonight and for Halladay’s start on Wednesday. I’ve heard conflicting reports about whether the Jays have someone scouting Phillies shortstop prospect Jason Donald today, and depending on where you’re browsing the web, the Red Sox may or may not have made an offer.

Elsewhere in Bird Land, the Jays activated righty Scott Richmond on Tuesday and optioned reliever Drik Hayhurst to Triple-A Las Vegas. Brian Tallet will remain in the bullpen, considering he has already chalked up a career-high in innings. Adam Lind has the day off and Vernon Wells is temporarily in the No. 3 hole in the lineup.

UPDATE: Told that the Jays do have a scout in Lehigh Valley to watch the Phillies Triple-A team (Jason Donald and Michael Taylor are playing). Also, interesting that there is no representative from the Jays front office on this trip to Seattle. I’m also told that no front-office types are scheduled to travel to Oakland. Just a thought: If Toronto does decide to trade Halladay — the face of the franchise — wouldn’t that be something he’d be informed of face to face? I’d think so. So, if the general manager shows up on the West Coast, it likely means something’s up.

Today’s lineups:

Thumbnail image for BlueJays.jpgTORONTO BLUE JAYS (49-51)
Fourth place AL East, 12.5 GB

1. Marco Scutaro, SS
2. Aaron Hill, 2B
3. Vernon Wells, CF
4. Scott Rolen, 3B
5. Alex Rios, RF
6. Lyle Overbay, 1B
7. Kevin Millar, DH
8. Jose Bautista, LF
9. Raul Chavez, C

Starter: LHP Marc Rzepczynski (1-2, 2.82)


mariners.gifSEATTLE MARINERS (51-48)
Third place AL West, 7.5 GB

1. Ichiro Suzuki, RF
2. Franklin Gutierrez, DH
3. Mike Sweeney, DH
4. Chris Shelton, 1B
5. Jack Hannahan, 3B
6. Rob Johnson, C
7. Chris Woodward, 2B
8. Michael Saunders, LF
9. Ronny Cedeno, SS

Starter: LHP Jarrod Washburn (8-6, 2.71)

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~JB

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JBastian-a point of clarification

“Ricciardi did not return several messages. Not a big surprise there, since J.P. has been offering up no comments for the most part since Halladay’s last start.”
*Actually, although JP hasn’t talked to any Canadian writers, he has gone behind all your backs and blabbed with Ken Rosenthal of Fox News on Sunday, 2 days after Halladay’s last start which is what led to this article:http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9858348/For-his-sake,-Ricciardi-better-be-bluffing

So, its Lee and not Halladay off to the Phils. Here is a thought – the Phils did not have to give up any of the three players that the Jays wanted for Halladay. So be it. However, what if they turned around now, and made the deal with the Jays. For two seasons, they would have the both Lee and Halladay in their rotation. They would be the odds on favorite to win the world series three years in a row! Obviously, they will not make the deal. However, it would be great if they did. On a different note, I doubt that Lee’s addition to the Phil’s rotation is going to put fear into the hearts of the Red Soxs, Yanks, or Angels. What scares you to death about Roy is that even if he does not have his good stuff, he will gut it out and find a way to win. With Lee, it is hit or miss. A nice guy, perhaps, but not driven like Doc. In fact, there are a number of guys in both leagues with better stuff than Doc. It is Doc’s desire to win that sets him apart, in my opinion. But, back to what I said before, the Phil’s acquisition of Lee is not likely to make any of the other suitor’s for Halladay worried enough to pull the trigger. I imagine the Yanks will acquire Washburn for insurance, and the Sox will follow with their own tier 2 acquisition to keep pace with the Yanks. That leaves the Angels who will likely not do anything if the the Sox and Yanks pick up tier 2 pitching help, other than to strengthen its own bullpen, etc. Oh well, much like all the noise surrounding Tomas Kaberle, it looks like Roy will likely walk for a couple of draft picks over to the Yanks or Sox, himself. The only way I see a Halladay deal being done is if it is expanded into a blockbuster with multiple players moving from both sides. This way, it is harder to say that anyone has overpaid, and both teams can be happy!

So, its Lee and not Halladay off to the Phils. Here is a thought – the Phils did not have to give up any of the three players that the Jays wanted for Halladay. So be it. However, what if they turned around now, and made the deal with the Jays. For two seasons, they would have the both Lee and Halladay in their rotation. They would be the odds on favorite to win the world series three years in a row! Obviously, they will not make the deal. However, it would be great if they did. On a different note, I doubt that Lee’s addition to the Phil’s rotation is going to put fear into the hearts of the Red Soxs, Yanks, or Angels. What scares you to death about Roy is that even if he does not have his good stuff, he will gut it out and find a way to win. With Lee, it is hit or miss. A nice guy, perhaps, but not driven like Doc. In fact, there are a number of guys in both leagues with better stuff than Doc. It is Doc’s desire to win that sets him apart, in my opinion. But, back to what I said before, the Phil’s acquisition of Lee is not likely to make any of the other suitor’s for Halladay worried enough to pull the trigger. I imagine the Yanks will acquire Washburn for insurance, and the Sox will follow with their own tier 2 acquisition to keep pace with the Yanks. That leaves the Angels who will likely not do anything if the the Sox and Yanks pick up tier 2 pitching help, other than to strengthen its own bullpen, etc. Oh well, much like all the noise surrounding Tomas Kaberle, it looks like Roy will likely walk for a couple of draft picks over to the Yanks or Sox, himself. The only way I see a Halladay deal being done is if it is expanded into a blockbuster with multiple players moving from both sides. This way, it is harder to say that anyone has overpaid, and both teams can be happy!

Both Boston and the Yanks have a rotation problem and need to do something. NY thought they could do a deal for Washburn, but Seattle announced they would extend his contract, so he’s off the table.

Boston could also use other “pieces” such as Scutaro, possibly Overbay and Barajas. Let’s see a block buster trade which get us Bucholtz, Lowrie (my view the key guy to get), Bowden, Bard and a top position prospect like maybe Jiminez or Lars Anderson.

Lowrie could be the best short stop prospect there is. With Dopirak, Hill, Lowrie and someone to be found yet for 3rd base, the infield would be strong for a long time.

We have the only card everyone wants, if we can’t do a deal that really benefits the Jays long term here, something is really wrong.

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